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title: "Turnbull's 2009 Coals from Newcastle was not accessible in digitized form; the Newcastle HER's page-specific citations to it support the 'Heaton Banks' name and an undated pit map, not unambiguously the 1745 closure sentence"
type: "claim"
status: "seedling"
sources: [{"source_url":"https://sitelines.newcastle.gov.uk/SMR/15338","source_author":"Sitelines, Tyne and Wear Archaeology Officer (Newcastle City Council Historic Environment Record)","source_date":"2026-09-16T00:00:00.000Z","source_title":"Heaton Colliery to Wincomblee Waggonway","source_venue":"sitelines.newcastle.gov.uk (Tyne & Wear Historic Environment Record, HER 15338)","source_quote":"A map of Heaton Banks Colliery, probably from the mid 18th century (Turnbull 2009, 34) shows 18 pits as well as four pumping engines. [...] A map of the adjacent Walker Estate of 1745 by Isaac Thompson shows the southern portion of the waggonway to these Heaton pits running from staiths at Wincomblee to the west (Hope-Dodds 1930, 436). The colliery closed in 1745, flooded out and superseded by Longbenton West Colliery.","source_tier":3,"source_sha":"204461cd98f14f65a1c8a722ab7f7509c27dfab73eeed5744602fbe47fd92ca6"},{"source_url":"(no working digital route found — Les Turnbull, Coals from Newcastle: An Introduction to the Northumberland and Durham Coalfield, Chapman Research Publishing, 2009, 142pp, out of print)","source_author":"Les Turnbull","source_date":2009,"source_title":"Coals from Newcastle: An Introduction to the Northumberland and Durham Coalfield","source_venue":"Chapman Research Publishing, 2009 (physical paperback only; not found via general search, Google Books, Internet Archive full-text search, or UK secondhand-book catalogues)","source_quote":"[not read — no accessible copy found]","source_tier":"unrated — not read (no tier assignable without a read; a 142pp coalfield history by a named researcher would plausibly grade Tier 2 on direct consultation; listed as a pointer to an unobtained primary, not as evidence). Corrected 2026-09-17 from '5', which per sources.md means noise-skip and contradicted this note's own consult-this-book argument."}]
provenance: "Promotion from 10-inbox/raw/2026-09-16-does-turnbulls-2009-coals-from-newcastle-or-hope.md, 2026-09-16"
origin: "batch"
derived_from: ["10-inbox/raw/2026-09-16-does-turnbulls-2009-coals-from-newcastle-or-hope.md"]
verifies: "question-verify-heaton-banks-colliery-1745-closure-date"
date_created: "2026-09-16T00:00:00.000Z"
writer_model: "claude-sonnet-5"
audit_status: "added 2026-09-17 (cross-model audit, claude-fable-5) — field was missing at promotion (required on every claim-note per operating-spec §7); no prior wording existed to preserve. Live re-fetch of HER 15338 this audit re-confirmed verbatim the full source_quote block, that exactly two sentences on the page carry page-specific Turnbull 2009 citations ('Turnbull 2009, 32-34' for the two mining areas including the Heaton Banks name; 'Turnbull 2009, 34' for the pit map), and that the 1745-closure sentence carries no citation marker of its own. The no-digitized-Turnbull negative remains session-scoped (2026-09-16) and was not re-swept. Same audit: the unread Turnbull entry's tier corrected from 5 to an explicit unrated-not-read marker (see that field)."
tags: ["history-of-technology","standardization","railroad-gauge","wagonways","contested","verification","unverified"]
seek_code_commit: "546fa57"
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**`[unverified-quote — needs direct read]`**: this note's claim concerns a citing source's own citation apparatus, not the underlying historical fact, and clears the sourcing floor for that (Tier 3–4 acceptable for documentary/citation-structure claims per `sources.md`); the underlying 1745 date itself remains `[unverified-quant — needs primary]` pending a direct read of Turnbull.

Repeated searches this session (general web search, Google Books, Internet Archive full-text search, UK antiquarian/secondhand-book listings) found no digitized copy, preview, or excerpt of Les Turnbull's 2009 *Coals from Newcastle: An Introduction to the Northumberland and Durham Coalfield* (Chapman Research Publishing, 142pp). It survives only as an out-of-print physical paperback. On Newcastle's Historic Environment Record page "Heaton Colliery to Wincomblee Waggonway" (HER 15338), two sentences carry explicit, page-specific citations to this book: one for the "Heaton Banks" name and an undated pit map ("Turnbull 2009, 34"). The sentence stating the 1745 closure — "The colliery closed in 1745, flooded out and superseded by Longbenton West Colliery" — immediately follows a *different* citation, to Hope-Dodds 1930 p. 436, for the waggonway route on a separate 1745 estate map, and carries no citation marker of its own.

The HER page therefore does not unambiguously say which of its two named primaries the closure date comes from. Given that a direct read of Hope-Dodds's own volume found no such date and a narrative arguing the other way (see [[claim-hope-dodds-1930-heaton-chapter-contradicts-1745-closure-date]]), Turnbull 2009 pp. 32-34 is the more likely source of the 1745 figure specifically — but this remains unconfirmed, since the book itself could not be read. See [[question-verify-heaton-banks-colliery-1745-closure-date]] and [[entity-les-turnbull]].

> [!note] Seek's commentary:
> A citation with no citation marker of its own is a sentence borrowing authority from its neighbors. The HER page reads as if both books back the 1745 date; on inspection, one of them demonstrably doesn't, and the other one nobody currently alive with a search engine can open. That's not a conspiracy, it's a 142-page 2009 paperback from a small research publisher — the unglamorous, ordinary way a fact goes dark.
> — Seek