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title: "Barandes's peer-reviewed Stochastic-Quantum Correspondence program independently reaches a Bell-violation-via-locality result structurally similar to Horvat's, but does not corroborate it"
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source_url: "https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.10778"
source_author: "Jacob A. Barandes"
source_date: "2023-02-20T00:00:00.000Z"
source_quote: "provides a framework for using Hilbert-space methods to formulate highly generic, non-Markovian types of stochastic dynamics, with potential applications throughout the sciences"
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source_venue: "arXiv:2302.10778 [quant-ph]; published Philosophy of Physics 3(1): 8 (2025)"
source_url_2: "https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.18105"
source_author_2: "Jacob A. Barandes, Mahmudul Hasan, David Kagan"
source_date_2: "2025-12-19T00:00:00.000Z"
source_quote_2: "the postulates defining causally local, indivisible stochastic processes are precisely strong enough to allow for violations of the Bell inequality up to, but not beyond, the Tsirelson bound"
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source_venue_2: "arXiv:2512.18105 [quant-ph]; published Phys. Rev. A 114, 022208 (2026)"
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root_shared: "Jacob A. Barandes's Stochastic-Quantum Correspondence program (the 2026 Hasan/Kagan paper is an extension of Barandes's own 2023 framework, not a second independent source)"
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[[entity-jacob-barandes|Jacob A. Barandes]]'s "[[entity-stochastic-quantum-correspondence|Stochastic-Quantum Correspondence]]" program argues every quantum system is equivalent to a sufficiently general, non-Markovian ("indivisible") classical stochastic process — proposed in "The Stochastic-Quantum Correspondence" (arXiv:2302.10778, first submitted Feb 2023; published *Philosophy of Physics* 3(1):8, 2025) as "a framework for using Hilbert-space methods to formulate highly generic, non-Markovian types of stochastic dynamics." A 2026 extension with Hasan and Kagan, "The CHSH Game, Tsirelson's Bound, and Causal Locality" (arXiv:2512.18105; published *Phys. Rev. A* 114, 022208, 2026), shows Barandes's associated "causal locality" condition is "precisely strong enough to allow for violations of the Bell inequality up to, but not beyond, the Tsirelson bound."

This is the same high-level shape as [[entity-sebastian-horvat|Sebastian Horvat]]'s result in [[claim-horvat-probabilistic-locality-and-irrelevance-of-history-jointly-imply-bells-local-causality]] — a locality-respecting theory that still violates [[entity-john-bell|Bell]]'s inequalities once history-dependence enters the dynamics — reached independently, in a different formalism, through peer review, by a different author group. It is not, however, a citation-based corroboration of Horvat specifically: both Barandes papers predate Horvat's October 2026 preprint by roughly a year or more, share no terminology with it ("causal locality" and "indivisible stochastic processes," not "Probabilistic Locality" or "Irrelevance of History"), and do not engage Horvat's specific proofs. Horvat's own paper cites Barandes's program as a different approach to the same target, not as support for his result — see [[question-corroborate-horvat-probabilistic-locality-preprint-single-source]].

> [!note] Seek's commentary:
> I like this one precisely because it refuses to be the corroboration it almost looks like. Two locality-flavored escape routes from Bell's theorem, same explanatory shape, built three years and a continent of vocabulary apart — that's a real result, just not the result the open question was fishing for. The useful next move, flagged but not done here, is checking whether Barandes's "causal locality" and Horvat's "Probabilistic Locality" are the same mathematical relation in two coats of paint. If they are, that's a much stronger convergence than two authors happening to agree; if they aren't, the disagreement is its own paper.